14000 Day Generation and Rapture on Rosh HaShanah?
Some say a Biblical generation is 14000 days and that this points to the rapture coming this year.
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When you run a prophecy website people are always writing you to find out what you think of the latest theory "forwarding around", whether it be 616 vs. 666, lunar sabbath, etc. This week someone emailed me asking what I thought about the 14,000 day generation idea (Six Day War 1967 + 14,000 days generation = rapture on Rosh HaShanah, 2005). I also know that for every person that bothers to write me about it, there are thousands of people who are wondering the same thing. This is usually my cue to stop what I'm doing and take the time write a short article as it's not much more work to write an article for thousands to peruse on the website than it is to write an email response to one person.
This time I'm taking a short cut. I found where someone else already did a good job debunking this 14000 day generation idea. Since I mostly agree with what the person wrote, I am quoting her below rather than taking the time to reinvent the wheel. See her comments below and my own brief comments after:
14000 Day Generation Debunked by Marilyn Agee
Also, what do you think about the 14000 actual days from June 6, 1967 (beginning of the Six-Day War) to October 4, 2005 (Feast of Trumpets)? Could these 14000 days point to the Rapture on Tishri 1, 5766? That is 38.8 years after the Six-Day War started.
I read "14000-DAY GENERATION AND Rosh HaShanah 2005," by Stuart Cobbs
I disagree with some of his figures. To me, he is mixing apples and oranges. In figuring the 14000-day generation from the Exodus to the entry into the Promised Land, he uses the 360-day year. In figuring the time from the the Six-Day War in 1967 to his proposed Rapture on the upcoming Feast of Trumpets, he uses the actual number of days, not going by the 360-day year. Are they equal? I don't think so.
I also disagree with his figures for his 14000-day period from the Crucifixion to the burning of the temple in 70 AD. To me, the Crucifixion had to be in 30 AD. He uses Sir Robert Anderson's date of April 6, 32 AD (Palm Sunday), and Sir Robert Anderson not only used the 360-day year, he used the wrong edict as the starting time for his calculations.
Stuart Cobbs said:
> > Sir Robert Anderson wrote the Christian classic, "The Coming Prince" and determined the dates that fulfilled Daniel's prophesies. March 15, 444 BC (edict to rebuild Jerusalem by Artaxerxes) 69 weeks of years x 7 = 483 years = 173880 days March 15, 444BC plus 173880 days is April 6, 32 AD Palm Sunday Jesus rides into Jerusalem April 6, 32 AD Palm Sunday
I think that is the wrong edict, so his date for Palm Sunday is wrong. Isa. 44:26 says that the Lord "saith of CYRUS, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to JERUSALEM, Thou shalt be built; and to the TEMPLE, Thy foundation shall be laid." No other edict but that of Cyrus makes sense to me. Whether the exact words of Cyrus were recorded in Scripture or not, we have the Lord's word on it. That's the very best authority.
The equation 69 x 7 x 360 = 173880 days is not an actual count of Solar days, i.e., revolutions of Earth.
> > I truly believe God has given His Church a prophetic timeline which is not difficult to discern. I believe God wants to show His Church what He will do and to expect the closing of the "Church Age" with the Rapture of the Church on Rosh-HaShanah 2005.
I believe God established a 14000 day generation with the Wilderness Generation and repeated the 14000 day generation with the generation that rejected Jesus as Messiah.
I believe if we properly understand the 14000 day timeline it should be no more difficult to discern that Rosh-HaShanah 2005 is the date of the Church Rapture as it was for the "Jewish religious authorities " to discern the date from Daniel's prophesy that Jesus the Messiah was to ride into Jerusalem on April 6, 32 AD (Palm Sunday).
> > It is fascinating that the three most important generations in the history of the Jewish people are EXACTLY 14000 days. (38.8 Jewish Years or 2000 Jewish weeks).
> > 1. The Wilderness generation which is EXACTLY 14000 days
> > 2. The generation which rejected Jesus as the Messiah to the destruction of Jerusalem In 70AD was EXACTLY 14000 days
> > 3. The Last Generation which saw the recapture of Jerusalem on June 6, 1967 to Rosh-HaShanah 2005 is EXACTLY 14000 days
> > The Jewish Calender is based on a 360 day year consisting of 12 months. (emphasis mine throughout)
The only one of these that seems EXACTLY right to me is Number 3. Is it meaningful if it stands alone?
> > GOD ESTABLISHES A 14000 DAY GENERATION
> > After the Israelites passed thru the Red Sea, God commanded Moses to number the men of the congregation who were 20 years of age and older. The numbering of the men 20 and over established who was of fighting age and the generation that was accountable to God. Once the men were numbered, the wilderness journey began. In Numbers 10:11 we read the numbered accountable generation of Israelites left Sinai on the 20th day of the 2nd month of the 2nd year - (Calendar Year = 360 days of 12 months) We add 30 plus 20 plus 360 = 410 Days . When the last man of the cursed generation died, God commanded that the congregation cross into the Promised Land. In Joshua 4:19 the Israelites entered the Promised Land on the 10th day of the 1st month of the 41st year (for 41st year see Dt 1:3.) Calendar Year 360 x 40 = 14400 + 10 = 14410. When we subtract the 410 days from the 14410 days we get exactly 14000 days for the number! ed accountable, cursed generation! The Israelites were commanded by God to enter the Promised Land the very day the last man of the cursed, numbered generation died. Exactly 14000 days from when the numbered generation set out into the Wilderness!
God said it was 40 years, not 38.8 years. Nu. 14:33 says, "your children shall wander in the wilderness FORTY YEARS, and bear your whoredoms, until your carcases be wasted in the wilderness." It was 38 years from the Provocation to entering the Land, but 40 from the beginning of the Exodus.
> > From the very day Daniel prophesied Jesus would ride into Jerusalem on April 6, 32 AD to the destruction of Jerusalem on August 5, 70AD was exactly a 14000 day generation. Jesus rides into Jerusalem April 6, 32 AD Palm Sunday Destruction of Jerusalem and the temple on August 5, 70 AD Time interval is 14000 days (2000 weeks or 38.8 Jewish years)
I think the year of the Crucifixion was 30 AD. Herod began to build the temple in BC 20/19. It was 46 years in building in 27 AD, the first Passover of Jesus' ministry. This agrees with April 6, 30 AD for the Crucifixion. That was 40 years before the temple was burned in 70 AD, not 38.8 years.
Eze. 4:6,7 says, "thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah FORTY DAYS: I have appointed thee EACH DAY FOR A YEAR. Therefore thou shalt set thy face toward the siege of Jerusalem, and thine arm shall be uncovered, and thou shalt prophesy against it."
To me, that period of time from the Crucifixion to the burning of the temple in 70 AD has to be FORTY YEARS.
Rosh HaShanah, 2005 Rapture Date Debunked
Now, where I differ from Marilyn is that I see the plain sense meaning of end times Bible prophecy leaving no chance of a rapture anytime soon anyway. So if anyone is proposing a rapture any day this year, let alone Rosh HaShanah, an invented counterfeit Jewish Holiday which does not usually coincide with the true Biblical feast day of the Day of Trumpets when the rapture will occur, I can discern immediately that it is false. The reason being is that the 3½ year Great Tribulation has not even started yet and cannot (at this point) start any earlier than 2008 (see my Wormwood book for details). To make matters worse, the sacrifices that the Antichrist must stop to begin the Great Tribulation according to Daniel 9:27 have also not even started yet (although with a Jewish Sanhedrin reformed again after almost 2000 years as of October, 2004 and talking about building the Third Temple, this is becoming imaginable at last). And the plain statement of Jesus was that the gathering would not be until "after the tribulation of those days." These are things that anyone can work out easily for themselves if they just combine the plain verses and statements about the Great Tribulation from Daniel and Jesus respectively in a straightforward non-metaphorical/allegorical manner.
Next, I wanted to respond to a comment I saw in someone's post about the 14000 day generation's reliance on 360 day year calculations:
360 Day Year in The Bible and History
There is Bible evidence that months were once 30 days, but THERE IS NO EVIDENCE that years ever were 360 days.
1Ki 4:7 - And Solomon had twelve officers over all Israel, which provided victuals for the king and his household: each man his month in a year made provision.
1Ch 27:1 The twelve captains, one for each month
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month:
This agrees with ancient history. We used to have a 360 day year as ancient calendars before 7th century BC record. These calendars were changed when the Earth's orbit was slowed down to 365¼ days and the lunar cycle shortened as well to 29½ days apparently after a close flyby with Mars. Intercalation had to be added since the month no longer divided evenly into the year. Thankfully nobody tried to change the number of degrees in a circle from the original 360 to match the later day-divisions of earth's revolution around the sun.
However, no need! Revelation tells us that this literal 360 / 30 calendar is returning after we make another close flyby, this time with Wormwood / Planet X (in front of us, causing us to speed up and the year to shorten, and the month to lengthen as a result of the greater angular distance the moon as to travel to reach conjunction).
See my article for more details and links to sites explaining the above and how it all works out.
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